#TheJimmyDoreShow EXPLOSIVE Truth About Vaccines & COVID w/Inventor Of mRNA Vaccine Technology, Robert Malone

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so
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let me ask you uh i heard you say so
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you’re kind of explaining
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uh something i heard you say before that
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we can’t vaccinate our way out of this
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pandemic and we shouldn’t be trying to
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do that
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and you kind of i think what you just
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did was kind of explain why can you just
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expand on that a little more
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so um
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for me you can appreciate i’m a little
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sensitive to people taking credit for my
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ideas
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[Laughter]
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and so it’s really important to me to
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give credit to other people
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uh it’s you know like i say i’ve been
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sensitized to this so
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in my case
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there are many other physicians and
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scientists and most notably gert
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vandenbosch who i used to work with at
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salve
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have pointed out
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that and really uh championed the logic
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and uh
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um
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and taken the hits in the press and
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wikipedia and everywhere else for having
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done so
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making the point that um
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in in a
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in a outbreak
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when
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there is very active spread of high
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levels of virus
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you cannot vaccinate your way out
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of
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the risk of that virus during an active
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outbreak
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with an imperfect leaky vaccine
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and that’s what we have we have a
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vaccine
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that currently
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various estimates coming from israel and
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other places
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suggest that its ability to prevent
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infection
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is something in the range of 40 to 60
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percent
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so let’s just take the the middle point
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there
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that means that if you go kiss your
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spouse and she’s got an active virus
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infection
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um
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in general your probability of being
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protected
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in that case
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where you’ve been exposed to a goodly
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amount of virus is about half
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so
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half of you that have that experience
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may be protected if you’ve taken vaccine
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the other half won’t
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and if you do get
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infected the virus will replicate at at
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least if not higher levels
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of replication in your body than if you
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weren’t
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vaccinated
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and you will be producing
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the same or higher levels of virus in
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your nose in your mouth in the places
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where you can
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shed it and potentially infect other
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people
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the same levels or higher than somebody
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who had been previously vaccinated now
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what that means functionally
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is that
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with these now
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further evolved virus strains like delta
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lambda and mu
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we’re in a situation
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in which the virus is increasingly
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infectious
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increasingly able to transmit from one
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person to another person
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and when you do the
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the math
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the epidemiology can model these things
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when you do the math
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even if we all had perfect practice and
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in 95 masks all the time
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the best we could do is slow these
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viruses down they will spread through
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the population
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okay so we need to come to grips with
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that
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these are leaky vaccines
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and this policy of universal vaccination
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isn’t going to get us
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to
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being able to get back to normal
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furthermore
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what we now know is if that isn’t bad
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enough
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is that to the extent they do provide
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protection
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these vacs the protection seems to peter
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out at about half a year after
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vaccination
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so then we’re in a position where
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well maybe we can re-vaccinate and we’ve
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heard the biden administration talking
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about the taking the jab again so a
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third jab
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the problem with that is that they made
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those decisions
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without actually having any data
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to support that
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and
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that has kind of been a problem all the
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way through this when we’ve heard dr
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fauci or others
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saying well we should do this or we
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should do that or we should do the other
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thing
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and they’re flying by the seat of their
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pants
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they’re substituting opinion for data
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and that might be okay if we were doing
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animal experiments or we had a few
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monkeys that we were going to be testing
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out a hypothesis but it’s not okay when
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we’re going to implement authoritarian
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measures
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across the country or across the world
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in which we mandate everybody takes this
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that of the other intervention you darn
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well better have rock solid data saying
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that that’s a good idea
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and even then i object to doing it
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i believe in the sanctity of the
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individual
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is is more important than the sanctity
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of the collective that’s my personal
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opinion and i think i’m backed by a an
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ancient document a little over 200 years
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old called the constitution of the
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united states
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so
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that’s that’s where i stand is the
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sanctity of the individual
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and the underlying logic here that’s
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being advanced
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will not get us to where the promised
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land that we’re being pointed towards it
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will not get us back
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to normalcy
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it won’t get us back to economic
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strength
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it won’t get us back
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to our jobs
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and this logic that we’re going to
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vaccinate
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mandate vaccination in
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you know this company or that company
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or
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across the military or whatever
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when you look at it now
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it is outdated and grossly naive
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the vaccinated can spread infection and
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disease
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the unvaccinated can spread infectious
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disease
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and the vaccine to the extent the
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vaccine provides benefit
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and only is good for about six months
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so then
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okay we all going to take re-vaccination
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every six months could there be a
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problem with that well actually there is
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okay that logic
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it absolutely requires data
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because those of us that have uh gray
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hair and have been around a little while
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in the vaccine world
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know and understand immunology know that
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there’s a thing called high zone
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tolerance vaccines
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are not linear dose response in vaccines
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are not linear the immune system is
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really complicated
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and more is not always better sometimes
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more can turn off the immune system
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can shut it down
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so we can’t just assume
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that a third jab or a fourth jab or a
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fifth jab
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is gonna do good it actually might
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make the immune response
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worse
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not only in people who have just
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received vaccine but potentially also in
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those that have the benefits of natural
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infection
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so it’s just bad science it’s bad policy
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it’s bad ethics
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and
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we’ve got to slow down the government
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has to
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get away
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from this seed of the pants
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you know fly by intuition
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kind of thinking
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based on the opinion of one individual
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which seems to be often what’s going on
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and you know who i’m speaking of
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and we have to get back to this thing
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called evidence-based medicine which is
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what i was trained to do
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and most of us were trained to do
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the other thing we got to get back to in
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my opinion
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is stopping
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this
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bureaucrats or tony fauci
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dictating to physicians how they should
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practice medicine
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allow physicians to practice medicine to
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practice their art for good heavens um
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there are drugs
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that many physicians and there is
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significant data supporting this
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believe can
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keep people out of the hospital
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now for some reason
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uh in in you and i have theories about
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what that might be having to do with
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conflicts of interest and the financial
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interests of the pharmaceutical industry
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for some reason the government is
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adamantly opposed to early treatment
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i don’t get it
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it’s bad medicine it’s bad policy when
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have we ever had a situation
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where patients go
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to the emergency room
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they go to the hospital
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they go to their physicians they say i’m
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having trouble breathing doc
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somebody tests their blood oxygen and
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says well it’s low but it’s not low
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enough go back home and come back when
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you’re really sick
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um
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you know uh when when have we ever had
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this this is insanity
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uh and and it’s totally
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antithetical
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to
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good medical practice
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and now we’re having a position
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where
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you know appointed bureaucrats in state
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medical boards and
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uh the american medical association in
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chicago
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which is largely a bunch of lobbyists
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sit around and say oh no thou shalt not
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do this or thou shalt not do that
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um
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you know based on
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what appears to be
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a lobbying and influence of the
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pharmaceutical industry it’s it is
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killing americans
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it is killing people worldwide
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and how do we know that
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okay
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we’re always told we have the best
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medical system in the world right
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well we certainly have the most
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expensive that is for sure
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and if you run the graph and look at
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outcomes from coven
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and compare them by nation in terms of
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death
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um
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in in mortality incidents per case
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what you see in those curves is that
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just about everybody is beating the
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pants off of us
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including the country the poor countries
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um
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that are using things like ivermectin

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um
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that are using things like ivermectin
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and hydroxychloroquine
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so
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something’s not right here we’re
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spending tons of money
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the government is telling physicians how
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to practice medicine
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uh and people are dying here at a higher
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rate than they are in a lot of other
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places
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and uh i think that uh
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there is certainly the signs
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that uh something’s rotten in denmark
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and uh
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why don’t we get back to a position
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where
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we stop letting the pharmaceutical
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industry dictate
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what we should do
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and start allowing physicians
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to practice their art
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um so just
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just so i’m clear on what you mean
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when you when you say so you’re you’re
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definitely pro-vax you’re
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that your whole life has been dedicated
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to developing vaccines
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and you’re the you’re the pioneer of the
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mrna vaccine
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technology um
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so
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what do you mean when you say
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so because you’re pro-vaccine but this
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vaccine you say is leaky what does leaky
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mean
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almost all vaccines are leaky it’s a
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question of degree so this is actually a
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technical term uh i didn’t just make it
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up
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what it has to do with is the ability
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it’s a characterization of the ability
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of the vaccine to prevent the spread of
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the disease
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between individuals
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and
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ideally
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a vaccine that’s going to be used for
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containment or prevention
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for instance we talk about the pediatric
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vaccines or we talk about influenza
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vaccines okay
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we try to to administer those in times
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when the virus is not circulating
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okay
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the way those things work is we give as
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many people as possible before the
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vaccine before the virus
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is circulating so for instance with
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influenza we deploy influenza vaccine in
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the off season
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and it provides imperfect protection
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but enough protection that the virus
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can’t get its foot in the door
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and
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start spreading wildly within the
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population that’s the logic
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in this case
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the wolf isn’t not just in the door he’s
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in in the kitchen
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right uh he’s he’s in our houses
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and our businesses and our workplaces
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and everything else
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and
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we that takes a different strategy
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so a leaky vaccine virtually all
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vaccines are leaky
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those of us that have done animal
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research and non-human primate research
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and vaccines know
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that you can overwhelm any vaccine with
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enough virus or pathogen okay
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so no vaccine is perfect but this one is
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particularly imperfect
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in that the protection against disease
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is
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modest
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you know as i mentioned something
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protection against infection is
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something like 40 to 60 percent and
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going down as the virus evolves
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uh and
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that’s never going to be able to get us
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to the nirvana that we seek which is
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herd immunity
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because it’s leaky does that make sense
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yes
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yes that makes sense to me that
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because people who are vaccinated can
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still spread the vaccine doesn’t stop
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you from spreading the virus
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precisely
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and um
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it’s actually only about on average
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something like about 50 percent
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uh protected from you getting infected
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if you’ve had the jabs
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and that actually only lasts for about
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six months
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whereas if you have been infected and
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recovered like i have
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and to my great surprise although i was
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infected and had serious covet
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in february late february of 2020
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i got infected with the boston outbreak
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which is very early in the states
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and i thought i was never going to be
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the same again i just got my pulmonary
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function test back
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and i’m a hundred percent i’m within
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normal limits so
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this disease um it kills i don’t wish to
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i’m not saying it’s the flu believe me
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i’ve had it
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you do not want to have this disease if
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you can avoid it
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i had it very early when we had
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virtually no drugs matter of fact i
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discovered one of the drugs that appears
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to be effective by treating myself and
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that’s pepsid
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i’m not here to push pepsid
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but
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that’s the situation i encountered and
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yet i survived

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